Revenge Therapy (aka Ming Dynasty)
The hardest climb catalogued at Hidden Wall among seven routes in this grade range.
- 5.13a
- grade
- Sport Bolted
- style
Is Revenge Therapy (aka Ming Dynasty) open right now?
Alert in the area
The Forest Service lists 7 alerts for Angeles National Forest.
Rincon-Redbox Road (2N24) Closure
Agency alert covering Angeles National Forest · Order 05-01-26-13 · USFS · Angeles National Forest
Fire Danger Level Elevated to "Very High"
Agency alert covering Angeles National Forest · USFS · Angeles National Forest
San Gabriel Canyon OHV Area Prohibitions
Agency alert covering Angeles National Forest · Order 05-01-26-09 · USFS · Angeles National Forest
San Dimas Experimental Forest Closure
Agency alert covering Angeles National Forest · USFS · Angeles National Forest
Eaton Fire Area Closure
Agency alert covering Angeles National Forest · Order 05-01-26-04 · USFS · Angeles National Forest
As of · Source: USFS · Angeles National Forest. Agencies don't list every closure — check before you go.
Best time to visit Revenge Therapy (aka Ming Dynasty)
Best months: October–May. Best months have typical highs of 55–85 °F, lows of 30 °F or warmer (32 °F where the station doesn't record snow), at most one snowy day and no more than 12 wet days.
Jan
60° / 38°
4 wet
Feb
63° / 39°
4 wet
Mar
69° / 42°
3 wet
Apr
75° / 45°
2 wet
May
84° / 53°
1 wet
Jun
93° / 61°
0 wet
Jul
99° / 67°
1 wet
Aug
98° / 67°
1 wet
Sep
91° / 62°
1 wet
Oct
80° / 53°
1 wet
Nov
67° / 43°
2 wet
Dec
58° / 36°
4 wet
Typical high / low (°F) and days with rain or snow, 1991–2020. Measured at Pearblossom, CA, 6.2 mi away at 3,101 ft. The station sits about 1,500 ft lower than this place, so expect it a little cooler here. Source: NOAA NCEI U.S. Climate Normals 1991–2020.
This route represents the upper limit of difficulty at Hidden Wall, where seven climbs have been catalogued across the grade range from 5.11a to 5.13a.
Photo of the crag

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