California · Rock climbing · Green Valley Lake

(g) Shorty

Shorty is a California climbing crag with 6 trad routes on 4 difficulty grades.

6 routes
5.6 – 5.10c
Trad

Is (g) Shorty open right now?

Closure in the area

There's a closure order in Mountaintop Ranger District. It doesn't name (g) Shorty, so check the source for the area it covers.

As of · Source: USFS · Mountaintop Ranger District. Agencies don't list every closure — check before you go.

Best time to visit (g) Shorty

Best months: May–October. Best months have typical highs of 55–85 °F, lows of 30 °F or warmer (32 °F where the station doesn't record snow), at most one snowy day and no more than 12 wet days.

  1. Jan

    46° / 24°

    6 wet

  2. Feb

    46° / 24°

    6 wet

  3. Mar

    51° / 27°

    6 wet

  4. Apr

    57° / 31°

    4 wet

  5. May

    66° / 37°

    2 wet

  6. Jun

    75° / 43°

    1 wet

  7. Jul

    80° / 50°

    2 wet

  8. Aug

    79° / 49°

    3 wet

  9. Sep

    73° / 44°

    2 wet

  10. Oct

    63° / 35°

    2 wet

  11. Nov

    53° / 28°

    3 wet

  12. Dec

    46° / 24°

    6 wet

Typical high / low (°F) and days with rain or snow, 1991–2020. Measured at Big Bear Lake, CA, 7 mi away at 6,753 ft. The station sits about 1,100 ft lower than this place, so expect it a little cooler here. This station doesn't record snowfall. Source: NOAA NCEI U.S. Climate Normals 1991–2020.

(g) Shorty is a climbing area in the Mountaintop Ranger District of San Bernardino National Forest in California, managed by the Forest Service. It sits among a cluster of climbing spots, with (h) Old Crafts Tit and (f) East Velveeta Point each about 0.1 mile away. The area has six trad routes, all rated from 5.6 to 5.10c. The easiest are Fat City, Phone Book and Weirdo, all 5.6, and the hardest is W.T.C. at 5.10c. The routes were first climbed by Pat Brennan and Jeff Brennan in September 2001, with W.T.C. going to Kenn Kennaga and Bob Cable. Summer is the most comfortable time to climb. Typical averages from the Big Bear Lake weather station, about 7 miles away, show July highs near 80°F with lows around 50°F, while winter highs sit in the mid-40s. That station sits roughly 1,100 feet lower than the area, so temperatures here run cooler. Nearby, Green Valley campground is about 1.4 miles away, and Little Green Valley is a hike at 1.7 miles. Green Valley Lake and Arrowbear Lake, both about 3 miles off, offer fishing.

Routes (6)