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Arizona · Rock climbing · Mount Lemmon · Near Oracle
Never to be the Same
- 5.7+
- grade
- Sport Bolted
- style
- Mar–Nov
- best months
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Closure in the area
There's a closure order in Santa Catalina Ranger District. It doesn't name Never to be the Same, so check the source for the area it covers.
Marshall Gulch Closure Order
Agency closure covering Santa Catalina Ranger District · Order 03-05-05-26-009 · USFS · Santa Catalina Ranger District
Border Barrier Construction Closure
Agency alert covering Coronado National Forest · Order 03-05-00-26-011 · USFS · Coronado National Forest
No Fire Restrictions
Agency alert covering Coronado National Forest · USFS · Coronado National Forest
Barfoot Snake Closure Order 03-05-01-24-004
Agency alert covering Coronado National Forest · USFS · Coronado National Forest
As of · Source: USFS · Santa Catalina Ranger District. Agencies don't list every closure — check before you go.
One of 15 climbs catalogued at Ridgeline, this route sits in the middle of the crag's range that spans 5.5 to 5.10b. First ascent by Tony Lusk & Mike Witt.
Around this trail
Add any of these when you start a tripSleep close Eat after Butler Hall
Fast food
On your way back · 1 miIf it rains Wildlife Viewing Area
Viewpoint
On your way back · 14 mi
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More in OracleBest time to visit Never to be the Same
Best months: March–November. Best months have typical highs of 55–85 °F, lows of 30 °F or warmer (32 °F where the station doesn't record snow), at most one snowy day and no more than 12 wet days.
Jan
50° / 34°
Feb
50° / 33°
Mar
55° / 37°
Apr
62° / 43°
May
71° / 51°
Jun
80° / 60°
Jul
80° / 63°
Aug
79° / 62°
Sep
75° / 59°
Oct
68° / 49°
Nov
59° / 40°
Dec
49° / 33°
Typical high / low (°F) and days with rain or snow, 1991–2020. Measured at Mt Lemmon Willow Canyon, AZ, 1.5 mi away at 7,027 ft. The station sits about 900 ft lower than this place, so expect it a little cooler here. This station doesn't record snowfall. Source: NOAA NCEI U.S. Climate Normals 1991–2020.
